-
Notifications
You must be signed in to change notification settings - Fork 0
/
Copy pathApplyingToCollege-1564252447-cil47o.json
997 lines (997 loc) · 71.3 KB
/
ApplyingToCollege-1564252447-cil47o.json
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
97
98
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
114
115
116
117
118
119
120
121
122
123
124
125
126
127
128
129
130
131
132
133
134
135
136
137
138
139
140
141
142
143
144
145
146
147
148
149
150
151
152
153
154
155
156
157
158
159
160
161
162
163
164
165
166
167
168
169
170
171
172
173
174
175
176
177
178
179
180
181
182
183
184
185
186
187
188
189
190
191
192
193
194
195
196
197
198
199
200
201
202
203
204
205
206
207
208
209
210
211
212
213
214
215
216
217
218
219
220
221
222
223
224
225
226
227
228
229
230
231
232
233
234
235
236
237
238
239
240
241
242
243
244
245
246
247
248
249
250
251
252
253
254
255
256
257
258
259
260
261
262
263
264
265
266
267
268
269
270
271
272
273
274
275
276
277
278
279
280
281
282
283
284
285
286
287
288
289
290
291
292
293
294
295
296
297
298
299
300
301
302
303
304
305
306
307
308
309
310
311
312
313
314
315
316
317
318
319
320
321
322
323
324
325
326
327
328
329
330
331
332
333
334
335
336
337
338
339
340
341
342
343
344
345
346
347
348
349
350
351
352
353
354
355
356
357
358
359
360
361
362
363
364
365
366
367
368
369
370
371
372
373
374
375
376
377
378
379
380
381
382
383
384
385
386
387
388
389
390
391
392
393
394
395
396
397
398
399
400
401
402
403
404
405
406
407
408
409
410
411
412
413
414
415
416
417
418
419
420
421
422
423
424
425
426
427
428
429
430
431
432
433
434
435
436
437
438
439
440
441
442
443
444
445
446
447
448
449
450
451
452
453
454
455
456
457
458
459
460
461
462
463
464
465
466
467
468
469
470
471
472
473
474
475
476
477
478
479
480
481
482
483
484
485
486
487
488
489
490
491
492
493
494
495
496
497
498
499
500
501
502
503
504
505
506
507
508
509
510
511
512
513
514
515
516
517
518
519
520
521
522
523
524
525
526
527
528
529
530
531
532
533
534
535
536
537
538
539
540
541
542
543
544
545
546
547
548
549
550
551
552
553
554
555
556
557
558
559
560
561
562
563
564
565
566
567
568
569
570
571
572
573
574
575
576
577
578
579
580
581
582
583
584
585
586
587
588
589
590
591
592
593
594
595
596
597
598
599
600
601
602
603
604
605
606
607
608
609
610
611
612
613
614
615
616
617
618
619
620
621
622
623
624
625
626
627
628
629
630
631
632
633
634
635
636
637
638
639
640
641
642
643
644
645
646
647
648
649
650
651
652
653
654
655
656
657
658
659
660
661
662
663
664
665
666
667
668
669
670
671
672
673
674
675
676
677
678
679
680
681
682
683
684
685
686
687
688
689
690
691
692
693
694
695
696
697
698
699
700
701
702
703
704
705
706
707
708
709
710
711
712
713
714
715
716
717
718
719
720
721
722
723
724
725
726
727
728
729
730
731
732
733
734
735
736
737
738
739
740
741
742
743
744
745
746
747
748
749
750
751
752
753
754
755
756
757
758
759
760
761
762
763
764
765
766
767
768
769
770
771
772
773
774
775
776
777
778
779
780
781
782
783
784
785
786
787
788
789
790
791
792
793
794
795
796
797
798
799
800
801
802
803
804
805
806
807
808
809
810
811
812
813
814
815
816
817
818
819
820
821
822
823
824
825
826
827
828
829
830
831
832
833
834
835
836
837
838
839
840
841
842
843
844
845
846
847
848
849
850
851
852
853
854
855
856
857
858
859
860
861
862
863
864
865
866
867
868
869
870
871
872
873
874
875
876
877
878
879
880
881
882
883
884
885
886
887
888
889
890
891
892
893
894
895
896
897
898
899
900
901
902
903
904
905
906
907
908
909
910
911
912
913
914
915
916
917
918
919
920
921
922
923
924
925
926
927
928
929
930
931
932
933
934
935
936
937
938
939
940
941
942
943
944
945
946
947
948
949
950
951
952
953
954
955
956
957
958
959
960
961
962
963
964
965
966
967
968
969
970
971
972
973
974
975
976
977
978
979
980
981
982
983
984
985
986
987
988
989
990
991
992
993
994
995
996
997
{
"sid": "cil47o",
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/",
"title:": "when do sat adversity scores come out?",
"text": "i prepped a lot for this! i got ~10% of my school hooked on drugs and then reported them so the crime rate would increase. i also got a lot of my friend\u2019s parents to get divorced so the single parent numbers would increase. i also did extensive work decreasing the value of people\u2019s homes by having highway construction projects funded, fracking projects started, and having 200 registered sex offenders move into my neighborhood (thank you craigslist!). ~200 homes went down an average of $20k. is this enough prep to give me a good diversity score? will i have a shot at HYPSM??",
"author": "CornEater64",
"created": 1564252447,
"updated": 1634075873,
"over_18": false,
"upvotes": 2432,
"upvote_ratio": 0.98,
"comments": {
"ev78rt7": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev78rt7/",
"text": "the shitposts really are evolving",
"author": "ashtree_c",
"created": 1564256671,
"upvotes": 904,
"replies": {
"ev7vtaf": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7vtaf/",
"text": "[deleted]",
"author": null,
"created": 1564265080,
"upvotes": 163,
"replies": {
"ev7wd6l": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7wd6l/",
"text": "Just because you took the ACT doesn't mean you get a reprieve...\n\n**Q: What if a student only took the\u00a0ACT? Are they excluded from the ECD?**\u00a0\n\nThe ECD accepts both SAT and\u00a0ACT\u00a0scores from institutions. If an\u00a0ACT\u00a0score is received, it is converted to an SAT score using the concordance tables, and the SAT score is included in the dashboard.\u00a0\u00a0\n\nSource: [https://www.collegeboard.org/membership/all-access/counseling-admissions-financial-aid-academic/what-you-need-know-about](https://www.collegeboard.org/membership/all-access/counseling-admissions-financial-aid-academic/what-you-need-know-about) \n\nTough luck my guy",
"author": "cooldude_127",
"created": 1564265301,
"upvotes": 65,
"replies": {
"ev7wtu2": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7wtu2/",
"text": "[deleted]",
"author": null,
"created": 1564265493,
"upvotes": 32,
"replies": {
"ev82dxx": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev82dxx/",
"text": "[deleted]",
"author": null,
"created": 1564267970,
"upvotes": 48,
"replies": {
"ev9b6ll": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev9b6ll/",
"text": "[deleted]",
"author": null,
"created": 1564315354,
"upvotes": 10,
"replies": {
"ev9l6xx": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev9l6xx/",
"text": "What does yield protection have to do with this? If you\u2019re applying to a need blind uni, they won\u2019t care about your income in terms of ability to pay.",
"author": "bubbafightsunlim",
"created": 1564324814,
"upvotes": 1,
"replies": {}
}
}
}
}
},
"ev7yn1d": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7yn1d/",
"text": "Sure, there may be aspects that disadvantage some groups (and I\u2019m not getting into that here) but what about the conversion from ACT to SAT is unjust? I\u2019m genuinely just trying to hear your point of view, not get into an argument.",
"author": "jortbru1299",
"created": 1564266275,
"upvotes": 6,
"replies": {
"ev819iy": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev819iy/",
"text": "[deleted]",
"author": null,
"created": 1564267412,
"upvotes": 27,
"replies": {
"ev828tv": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev828tv/",
"text": "[deleted]",
"author": null,
"created": 1564267896,
"upvotes": 14,
"replies": {
"ev89oxu": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev89oxu/",
"text": "[deleted]",
"author": null,
"created": 1564273193,
"upvotes": 10,
"replies": {
"ev8wdd7": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev8wdd7/",
"text": "The area you grow up in influences you a lot.",
"author": "gengsturrr",
"created": 1564294258,
"upvotes": 6,
"replies": {}
},
"ev9m6om": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev9m6om/",
"text": "What \u201caccurate\u201d methodology? \n\nUniversities already used this methodology. Did you really believe that top universities (aka need blind universities) saw your income directly? \n\nWell, they didn\u2019t. So they resorted to this method to predict your income/living conditions while staying need blind. It\u2019s not a drastic change to methodology like you claim (which is based on how you *assumed* it works rather than actual facts).",
"author": "bubbafightsunlim",
"created": 1564325557,
"upvotes": 4,
"replies": {}
}
}
}
}
},
"ev84kje": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev84kje/",
"text": "If you\u2019re low income but going to a high income school/live in a high income neighbourhood, you\u2019re going to be better off than your average low income student in a low income environment. Tons of things go into your SAT/ACT score, including (but not limited to): your school\u2019s available resources, your school\u2019s teachers, your school\u2019s courses (some schools have free SAT/ACT prep classes), the opportunities available to you, and the culture regarding education in your community or school. The ECD isn\u2019t there to tell them about your \u201cadversity\u201d, it\u2019s there so they know more about the context of your scores. If you\u2019re requesting a ton of FA, they\u2019ll see that you\u2019re poor anyways. This\u2019ll only really make a difference in a tiny number of admissions, especially at top schools. Most people who get into a top school get in because they\u2019re ridiculously qualified in one way or another. A small fraction of admissions take up a majority of the debate and discussion time.",
"author": "black1ops22",
"created": 1564269142,
"upvotes": 11,
"replies": {
"ev8jtgz": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev8jtgz/",
"text": "While I do agree that a low-income student in a high income area is better of than a low-income student in a low-income area, I\u2019d argue a low-income student in a high-income is worse off than a mid-to-high income student in a low-income area. While the latter may not be a common situation, I\u2019d argue it\u2019s unjust for this inaccurate metric to benefit the wrong people when an accurate metric is already available in the form of stating your personal situation. However, I do think there needs to be something that combats against the issue of well-resourced, high income areas sending significantly more kids to top colleges than their middle-to-lower class counterparts. There\u2019s many reasons why the top colleges have more children from the top 1% than the bottom 60%, but a prominent one is the fact these rich kids can afford feeder schools.",
"author": "smujevic5",
"created": 1564281747,
"upvotes": 2,
"replies": {
"ev8ox31": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev8ox31/",
"text": "I\u2019m literally that mid income student in an extremely low income area. I\u2019ll tell you right now that I wish I was poor in a high income area. My school is severely underfunded, and the opportunities available to me (EC wise) are sparse if not non-existent. The face that I\u2019ve managed to score a top score on my standardized testing while going to a school where most people don\u2019t even know what standardized testing is is, in my opinion, important for the schools to know. I don\u2019t understand what you mean by stating your personal situation. Most people don\u2019t accurately convey their academic and socioeconomic context on their college applications. The \u201cadversity score\u201d is there to do it for them. I don\u2019t think there\u2019s a problem with the top 1% sending a bunch of kids to ivies, because that\u2019s the ivy league\u2019s prerogative. They\u2019re private schools that highly value your financial aid situation. The idea that the college application is a meritocracy is just wrong.",
"author": "black1ops22",
"created": 1564286364,
"upvotes": 2,
"replies": {}
}
}
},
"ev8tflu": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev8tflu/",
"text": "So. Much. This.",
"author": "LightEscaping",
"created": 1564290880,
"upvotes": 0,
"replies": {}
}
}
},
"ev9lf7r": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev9lf7r/",
"text": "1: Need blind colleges don\u2019t see your income directly, unlike your claim. Income goes to Fin-Aid, not AOs\n\n2: Because of this, they need other methods to estimate your actual income, and have used these methods for years.\n\n3: These methods are by and large the same or similar to the ones used by CB in the Environmental Context Dashboard (it is *not* called the adversity score like you seem to believe oh so strongly).\n\nSo, nothing much has changed. You are freaking out about nothing. If you have a problem with it, you have a problem with how need-blind universities have viewed income for a long time, not just collegeboard. (You claim CB is \u201cdiluting\u201d the method for seeing income later, good thing their method of \u201cdiluting\u201d it is the same as the universities that will be using the dashboard).",
"author": "bubbafightsunlim",
"created": 1564324984,
"upvotes": 2,
"replies": {}
},
"ew4y7zw": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ew4y7zw/",
"text": "No they aren\u2019t. It\u2019s not even called the adversity score.",
"author": "ApplyingToUniSoon",
"created": 1565121490,
"upvotes": 0,
"replies": {}
}
}
}
}
},
"ev805c4": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev805c4/",
"text": "This has all gone way over my head, what's wrong with this?",
"author": "orangemars2000",
"created": 1564266926,
"upvotes": 1,
"replies": {}
},
"ev81fwf": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev81fwf/",
"text": "Liberals arent supposed to make sense.",
"author": null,
"created": 1564267494,
"upvotes": -13,
"replies": {
"ev81r06": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev81r06/",
"text": "[deleted]",
"author": null,
"created": 1564267645,
"upvotes": 11,
"replies": {
"ev826ni": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev826ni/",
"text": "You really think a conservative would come up with skewing tests for social \"justice\"?",
"author": null,
"created": 1564267866,
"upvotes": -6,
"replies": {
"ev84mr1": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev84mr1/",
"text": "when did this become a \u201csocial \u2018justice\u2019\u201d issue?",
"author": "black1ops22",
"created": 1564269186,
"upvotes": 4,
"replies": {
"ev87qtl": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev87qtl/",
"text": "About 2 years ago. Until then, tests were just based upon, you know, how smart you were.",
"author": null,
"created": 1564271612,
"upvotes": -1,
"replies": {
"ev87syo": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev87syo/",
"text": "Are you trying to use this as some political commentary on Trump or something",
"author": "black1ops22",
"created": 1564271661,
"upvotes": 2,
"replies": {
"ev89r4a": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev89r4a/",
"text": "No, I voted for Johnson last 3 times. I'm just saying libs have to dumb down the system to achieve their goals. I lived in Memphis and when more whites than blacks passed the exams to become cops/firemen, they changed the test to where a moron could pass it. Instead of lifting people up, libs bring them down. Not political just reality",
"author": null,
"created": 1564273243,
"upvotes": 1,
"replies": {}
}
}
}
}
}
}
},
"ev9kup6": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev9kup6/",
"text": "They\u2019re not skewing tests, smart one. The \"adversity score\" (which isn't even a score, it's a dashboard with a list of factors) doesn't affect your SAT score at all.\n\nThey\u2019re providing context for the score you get. *That\u2019s it*. Do an ounce of research before spouting off uninformed nonsense.\n\nAnd, not only that, colleges largely already had this context before or something similar. It\u2019s a slight change and not at all \u201cskewing\u201d tests.\n\nThe fact we still see garbage takes like this is amazing.",
"author": "bubbafightsunlim",
"created": 1564324548,
"upvotes": 1,
"replies": {}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
},
"ev8b56n": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev8b56n/",
"text": "\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2880\u2864\u28b6\u28f6\u28f6\u2844\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800 \u2800\u2800\u2880\u28e0\u28e4\u28e4\u28e4\u28ff\u28e7\u28c0\u28c0\u28c0\u28c0\u28c0\u28c0\u28c0\u28c0\u28e4\u2844\u2800 \u28a0\u28fe\u285f\u280b\u2801\u2800\u2800\u28f8\u2807\u2808\u28ff\u28ff\u285f\u2809\u2809\u2809\u2819\u283b\u28ff\u2840 \u28ba\u28ff\u2840\u2800\u2800\u2880\u2874\u280b\u2800\u2800\u28ff\u28ff\u2847\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2819\u2807 \u2808\u281b\u283f\u2836\u281a\u280b\u28c0\u28e4\u28e4\u28e4\u28ff\u28ff\u28c7\u28c0\u28c0\u28f4\u2846\u2800\u2800\u2800 \u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2820\u285e\u280b\u2800\u2800\u2800\u28ff\u28ff\u284f\u2809\u281b\u283b\u28ff\u2840\u2800\u2800 \u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u28ff\u28ff\u2847\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2808\u2801\u2800\u2800 \u2800\u2800\u28e0\u28f6\u28f6\u28f6\u28f6\u2844\u2800\u2800\u28ff\u28ff\u2847\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800 \u2800\u28b0\u28ff\u281f\u2809\u2819\u28bf\u285f\u2800\u2800\u28ff\u28ff\u2847\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800 \u2800\u28b8\u285f\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2818\u2800\u2800\u2800\u28ff\u28ff\u2803\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800 \u2800\u2808\u28bf\u2844\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u28fc\u28ff\u280f\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800 \u2800\u2800\u2800\u2819\u2837\u2836\u2836\u2836\u283f\u281f\u2809\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800\u2800",
"author": "FinalPush",
"created": 1564274395,
"upvotes": 11,
"replies": {
"ev8dy9i": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev8dy9i/",
"text": "I don't read Braille my guy, sorry",
"author": "ILackAnAttentionSpan",
"created": 1564276731,
"upvotes": 9,
"replies": {
"ev8dyyb": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev8dyyb/",
"text": "Only works in mobile",
"author": "FinalPush",
"created": 1564276748,
"upvotes": 7,
"replies": {}
}
}
}
}
}
}
},
"ev6xr2a": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev6xr2a/",
"text": "When you tryna go from a 600 to a 1600",
"author": null,
"created": 1564252665,
"upvotes": 332,
"replies": {
"ev71883": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev71883/",
"text": "\ud83d\ude29\ud83d\ude29\ud83d\ude29 i need it",
"author": "CornEater64",
"created": 1564253923,
"upvotes": 113,
"replies": {
"ev799s0": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev799s0/",
"text": "Wait is the adversity score changing ur sat score depending where you live or is it a completely different score",
"author": "TightBroccoli",
"created": 1564256850,
"upvotes": 35,
"replies": {
"ev7dnuu": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7dnuu/",
"text": "Adversity score has no effect on your actual SAT score. All it is is a separate score scaled from 1-100 based on 31 factors to illustrate the adversity you faced to get your score (1 is least adversity, 50 is average and 100 is most adversity). \n\nSo a 1500 with a 78 adversity score is more impressive to colleges than a 1500 with a 32 adversity score. The person with the 78 was less likely to do well based on a variety of external factors like income, neighborhood, school, parents\u2019 education levels, race etc. than the person who had the 32.",
"author": "NitronicFury",
"created": 1564258411,
"upvotes": 96,
"replies": {
"ev7nuk3": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7nuk3/",
"text": "How do you learn your adversity score, if you don't mind me asking?",
"author": "SingingWhileCrying",
"created": 1564262050,
"upvotes": 20,
"replies": {
"ev7oarr": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7oarr/",
"text": "You don't get to know it. Colleges will see it but we can't access them :(",
"author": "thefloorisbutter",
"created": 1564262212,
"upvotes": 35,
"replies": {}
},
"ev7oric": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7oric/",
"text": "I think only colleges you send the score report to can see the score. You\u2019re not able to see it yourself",
"author": "NitronicFury",
"created": 1564262381,
"upvotes": 9,
"replies": {}
}
}
},
"ev7lab6": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7lab6/",
"text": "I moved from a white suburban neighborhood to a minority-majority, low-income urban area in NYC. My adversity score is gonna be amazing.",
"author": null,
"created": 1564261146,
"upvotes": 45,
"replies": {
"ev80cit": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev80cit/",
"text": "I hope you don\u2019t actually think that that\u2019ll make a difference in your adversity score on its own. The people who make these things aren\u2019t brain dead.",
"author": "ar-_0",
"created": 1564267012,
"upvotes": 12,
"replies": {
"ev8p5oc": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev8p5oc/",
"text": "collegeboard not brain dead lol",
"author": "ChaseBit",
"created": 1564286604,
"upvotes": 9,
"replies": {
"evpmdyu": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/evpmdyu/",
"text": "Yeah they are lol. Did you see the APWH test?",
"author": null,
"created": 1564676306,
"upvotes": 2,
"replies": {}
}
}
}
}
}
}
},
"ev7vt0e": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7vt0e/",
"text": "when is this getting implemented ?",
"author": "Kaori-Miyazono",
"created": 1564265077,
"upvotes": 2,
"replies": {
"ev7vwc1": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7vwc1/",
"text": "I think it already is for ~150 schools. This year they\u2019re moving to all colleges",
"author": "NitronicFury",
"created": 1564265114,
"upvotes": 7,
"replies": {}
}
}
},
"ev8qez4": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev8qez4/",
"text": "I don\u2019t mean to come off as offensive but why did you mention race as an external factor if you already mentioned school, neighborhood, income, and parents education qualifications? \n\nWhenever I argue about topics like AA I ask I always make the argument about using income as a better metric. They always counter by saying that race is linked to poverty. That\u2019s the reason I\u2019m asking (because you mentioned it among other factors).",
"author": "DecayableRadiologist",
"created": 1564287806,
"upvotes": 3,
"replies": {
"ev8rvio": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev8rvio/",
"text": "We\u2019ve known for years the SAT is inherently biased based on race. ON AVERAGE Asian-Americans scored better than European Americans who scored better than Latino Americans and African-Americans. This lead to the restructuring of the test several times in order to focus its testing more on high school curricula.\n\nWhen I include race among the external factors that influence one\u2019s SAT score, I mean CollegeBoard knows the SAT is not absolutely 100% fair to students of all races. Some of it is due to systemic oppression against minority races in this country. But they know part of it is their fault and they aren\u2019t expecting the average Black and average White student to get the same score because they know their test has issues. The adversity score is there to highlight that issue with the test and to remind admissions of CB\u2019s situation.\n\nUpon further research, race is actually not one of the 31 criteria CB uses to form the Overall Disadvantage Level we call the \u201cadversity score.\u201d\nThese factors are listed in the table [here.](https://professionals.collegeboard.org/environmental-context-dashboard/detailed-data-description) \n\nHope that made sense",
"author": "NitronicFury",
"created": 1564289257,
"upvotes": 8,
"replies": {
"ev8xi7k": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev8xi7k/",
"text": "Thanks for the response. It cleared up some things while opening up others. It seems that you support the new adversity score. I\u2019ll make it clear that although I\u2019m for the idea, I\u2019m against that collegeboard\u2019s version due to the way it is implemented. So with all that out of the way I have some questions. They may come off as attacking but they are honest questions.\n\nYou stated that the test is biased based on race. My question is how so? You stated that Asians score the highest while Europeans, Latinos, and Blacks scored lower. Wouldn't this be expected if you consider that the former group studies more than the latter?\n\nThe reason I asked the previous question about why you included race was because I interpreted you comment as follows: \n\nA student did poorly on the SAT because he didn't have resources (income), his school didn't give any attention to the test (school), crime in his neighborhood prevented him from peacefully being able to study (neighborhood), or his parents couldn't help him whatsoever (parents qualifications). If we use the same logic for race, it wouldn't make sense. How would the color of someone's skin contribute to how many points they get on a test? Again, this is not something you or I am saying. It is simply what comes to mind when you read that previous comment.\n\nFinally in response to your comment about collegeboard not being fair to students of all races, I would tend to disagree. Name me one advantage that a student of a certain race gets just for being that race (I don't want to get into the argument of resources being LINKED to race; just something that is STRICTLY due to skin color). You also mentioned systemic oppression in this country. Can you please elaborate on that because I don't really know of any system/institution that was made for oppressing a certain race. Also, how does CB know that a black student and a white student will get different scores due to the test having issues (and also what issues in particular are you speaking of). Is there something taught in schools that are predominantly white that is not taught in schools that are predominantly black?\n\nLooking forward to your response!",
"author": "DecayableRadiologist",
"created": 1564295658,
"upvotes": 9,
"replies": {
"ev92zqn": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev92zqn/",
"text": "Yeah seriously, I'm living abroad with a friend's family during college break and their high school aged kid studies more for the SAT in a single week than I did during all of high school. Race doesn't matter, it's about the culture. I have friends from this SEAsian city that studied in the US for HS and they didn't study as much, because they were more entrenched in the American culture. I'm not saying either culture is right, but it's not about race.",
"author": "JCharante",
"created": 1564303307,
"upvotes": 5,
"replies": {
"ev93uip": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev93uip/",
"text": "Exactly! I wouldn\u2019t sum it up any better. It\u2019s all in the culture and more specifically, the family. For instance, every time some asked me about what I want to be, I tell them I want to pursue a career in medicine. Immediately they ask me if that\u2019s what I really want to do. I tell them yeah but I have a feeling they don\u2019t believe me. Reason is because where I\u2019m from, many people become doctors. \n\nI also want to add that certain cultures VALUE education more than others. The parents have certain expectations. Some parents could care less. Kids are cool with it too. It\u2019s rare that you see a kids go against what they\u2019re expected to do.\n\nAlso, I know countless kids who go to a school that has 10x more resources than mine but the kids there end up having their own kids. You see 16 year old girls walking to school with their babies (the school actually has a daycare for the students\u2019 children). It\u2019s ridiculous to deny that this isn\u2019t a part of culture.",
"author": "DecayableRadiologist",
"created": 1564304616,
"upvotes": 5,
"replies": {}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
},
"ev9mtdk": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev9mtdk/",
"text": "This is still inaccurate to some degree, it\u2019s a whole dashboard of factors, not just one score, and it\u2019s not an \u201cadversity score\u201d, it\u2019s the Environmental Context Dashboard.\n\nFull explanation by CB: \nhttps://professionals.collegeboard.org/environmental-context-dashboard/detailed-data-description\n\nedit:\nI'm not saying they were largely wrong, just that some might get the wrong idea that it's just one score, since a lot of people like to complain about that baselessly lol. Nor am I saying the \"score\" is bad",
"author": "bubbafightsunlim",
"created": 1564326007,
"upvotes": -1,
"replies": {}
}
}
},
"ev7dlw7": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7dlw7/",
"text": "Yes",
"author": "xXGunner989Xx",
"created": 1564258391,
"upvotes": 0,
"replies": {}
}
}
}
}
}
}
},
"ev7dzp1": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7dzp1/",
"text": "At night I go out onto my front lawn and fire my gun a couple of times in the air. I do this a couple of times a month to drive housing prices down.",
"author": "whitelife123",
"created": 1564258532,
"upvotes": 210,
"replies": {
"ev7gajm": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7gajm/",
"text": "great idea! i need to go and lower dem prices \ud83d\ude29\ud83d\ude29\n\ngon get that thicc 100 \ud83d\ude33",
"author": "mteart",
"created": 1564259357,
"upvotes": 64,
"replies": {
"ev7ibmm": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7ibmm/",
"text": "fuck the adversity score, gotta get that epic 100 on the test",
"author": "WhatIsAUsernameee",
"created": 1564260097,
"upvotes": 29,
"replies": {}
}
}
}
}
},
"ev7mjep": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7mjep/",
"text": "Haha jokes on you I\u2019m about to gentrify\nYour whole community, get owned",
"author": "Bendy150",
"created": 1564261581,
"upvotes": 62,
"replies": {
"ev7wmvt": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7wmvt/",
"text": "where's the mf P.F. Chang's",
"author": "legobaba",
"created": 1564265411,
"upvotes": 24,
"replies": {}
}
}
},
"ev77or7": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev77or7/",
"text": "i know ur joking but there's nothing on the environmental context dashboard that colleges don't already consider.",
"author": null,
"created": 1564256293,
"upvotes": 71,
"replies": {
"ev7mlmn": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7mlmn/",
"text": "I doubt college's look at property tax values.",
"author": "cooldude_127",
"created": 1564261602,
"upvotes": 18,
"replies": {
"ev7nb72": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7nb72/",
"text": "and neither does the dashboard.",
"author": null,
"created": 1564261854,
"upvotes": 4,
"replies": {
"ev7x2vk": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7x2vk/",
"text": "But do colleges consider all of these factors:\n\n* Median family income\n* Percentage of all households in poverty (poverty rate)\n* Percentage of families with children in poverty\n* Percentage of households with food stamps\n* Percentage of families that are single-parent families with children and in poverty\n* Percentage of families that are single-parent families with children\n* Percentage of housing units that are rental\n* Percentage of housing units that are vacant\n* Rent as a percentage of income\n* Percentage of adults with less than a 4-year college degree\n* Percentage of adults with less than a high school diploma\n* Percentage of adults with agriculture jobs\n* Percentage of adults with nonprofessional jobs\n* Percentage unemployed\n* College-going behavior\n* Probability of being a victim of a crime",
"author": "cooldude_127",
"created": 1564265599,
"upvotes": 17,
"replies": {
"ev7zm5p": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7zm5p/",
"text": "Not sure if this is true for all schools, but a Yale admissions officer showed us what pops up on their screen when they look at an application. \n\nIt had a number for students\u2019 overall adversity (next year this number will be divided into two, a school neighborhood adversity number and a home neighborhood adversity number). Then there are two bar graphs, one for school and the other for neighborhood. I can\u2019t recall all of the categories but some of them are: crime, housing stability (vacant lots, rent vs purchase, etc), family stability (basically how many single/divorced households there are), education levels.....stuff along those lines. All of these categories are assigned a number, the number is determined by numerous factors, including some of the parameters mentioned above.\nThe graphs weren\u2019t broken down into specifics, and I could not see/tell what the factors that came into account were. \nIt would just say something like \u201chousing stability: 53\u201d\nBut I\u2019m assuming that there are numerous factors taken into account that are reflected in that number. AOs themselves don\u2019t need to hunt for that info, it\u2019s built into the algorithm of whatever platform they\u2019re using. The AO hinted that this sort of setup was not Yale-specific, all schools essentially had a similar system breaking down this information. This was why she claimed she was against the SAT adversity thing, because colleges already have built in systems that practically do the same things",
"author": "donnezmoilamort",
"created": 1564266701,
"upvotes": 22,
"replies": {
"ev82nss": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev82nss/",
"text": "https://professionals.collegeboard.org/sites/default/files/01506-133-ECD-Webpage-Update-woTop_0.jpg\n\nyeah here it is. idk where people get adversity from anyway cause it's not even mentioned on the dashboard lol",
"author": null,
"created": 1564268113,
"upvotes": 8,
"replies": {
"ev853u1": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev853u1/",
"text": "\"Environmental Context Dashboard\" is the official name, but \"Adversity Score\" was what it was dubbed by the newspapers. This is similar to the \"Affordable Care Act\" which was dubbed \"ObamaCare\"",
"author": "cooldude_127",
"created": 1564269519,
"upvotes": 9,
"replies": {}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
},
"ev80qru": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev80qru/",
"text": "correct. it\u2019s just a useful tool for approximating socioeconomic context that\u2019s better than what existed before (like NCES data). completely wild to me how controversial it\u2019s become.",
"author": "peteyMIT",
"created": 1564267190,
"upvotes": 12,
"replies": {}
}
}
},
"ev7cyfm": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7cyfm/",
"text": "I mean, who needs extracurriculars when you can do all this? You\u2019re contributing to the community (just not your own, but you\u2019re helping everyone else out by removing criminals from other neighborhoods). /s",
"author": "KoalityBrawls",
"created": 1564258163,
"upvotes": 46,
"replies": {}
},
"ev6xh44": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev6xh44/",
"text": "whatever it takes",
"author": "phlabbaka",
"created": 1564252566,
"upvotes": 39,
"replies": {}
},
"ev7htw9": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7htw9/",
"text": "We were bad, but now we're good and we're coming to live in your neighborhood",
"author": "d-a-v-i-d-",
"created": 1564259917,
"upvotes": 15,
"replies": {}
},
"ev87735": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev87735/",
"text": "Damn, I always feel bad when come on this sub. All I managed to do was break a few windows and start a fight at school. Good work tho",
"author": null,
"created": 1564271172,
"upvotes": 8,
"replies": {}
},
"ev7uyqc": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7uyqc/",
"text": "What\u2019s HYPSM anyway",
"author": "chickenmcnugggets",
"created": 1564264742,
"upvotes": 8,
"replies": {
"ev7x9e2": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7x9e2/",
"text": "Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT\n\nbasically an acronym for super elite colleges",
"author": "cooldude_127",
"created": 1564265677,
"upvotes": 18,
"replies": {
"ev7zrle": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7zrle/",
"text": "thank you!",
"author": "chickenmcnugggets",
"created": 1564266769,
"upvotes": 5,
"replies": {}
}
}
}
}
},
"ev8e8lt": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev8e8lt/",
"text": "4 D cHeSs\n\nD\n\nc\n\nH\n\ne\n\nS\n\ns",
"author": "ScholarGrade",
"created": 1564276976,
"upvotes": 6,
"replies": {}
},
"ev83v8u": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev83v8u/",
"text": "Now that\u2019s what I call an EC",
"author": "rooooooon",
"created": 1564268690,
"upvotes": 5,
"replies": {}
},
"ev7gvoq": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7gvoq/",
"text": "Lmao I'd gild this",
"author": "splash_water",
"created": 1564259581,
"upvotes": 8,
"replies": {}
},
"ev7lwd3": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7lwd3/",
"text": "Will all universities get this score or only some this year?",
"author": "TightBroccoli",
"created": 1564261358,
"upvotes": 3,
"replies": {
"ev84y52": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev84y52/",
"text": "Last year, Yale and 50 others used it. They plan to expand it to 150+ unis around the US.",
"author": "cooldude_127",
"created": 1564269408,
"upvotes": 3,
"replies": {}
}
}
},
"ev88qom": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev88qom/",
"text": "Did you make sure to throw trash in your local parks? That\u2019ll definitely raise your adversity score",
"author": "OxygenIsCool",
"created": 1564272416,
"upvotes": 3,
"replies": {}
},
"ev8j58n": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev8j58n/",
"text": "Will I have a good adversity score if I found Heroin needles in my schools bathroom?",
"author": "fmemate",
"created": 1564281163,
"upvotes": 2,
"replies": {}
},
"evbns0s": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/evbns0s/",
"text": "Ok how do adversity scores work though? Because I grew up in a wealthy district yet I lived in a tiny 2 bedroom house with my mom and two brothers while my dad was in prison and we were on food stamps, but according to what I\u2019ve seen, I\u2019ll be judged the same as if I grew up in a 5 bed room house with parents making $150k+ a year :/",
"author": "lol0612",
"created": 1564385372,
"upvotes": 2,
"replies": {
"exn8752": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/exn8752/",
"text": "I\u2019m in a similar situation. I live in a really wealthy district yet I qualified for free lunch at school. I\u2019m really worried that this adversity score will hurt me...",
"author": "habbibbi",
"created": 1566448523,
"upvotes": 1,
"replies": {}
}
}
},
"ev80tht": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev80tht/",
"text": "Personally I think the adversity score is stupid. Because it fucks over middle class people like myself.",
"author": "ShatteredPixelz",
"created": 1564267225,
"upvotes": 6,
"replies": {
"ev9jy61": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev9jy61/",
"text": "It really doesn\u2019t because colleges already looked at the factors. You\u2019re no more \u201cfucked\u201d than you were before. Do some research before making assumptions like this.",
"author": "bubbafightsunlim",
"created": 1564323851,
"upvotes": 4,
"replies": {}
},
"ev8vley": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev8vley/",
"text": "Well serious institutional barriers to success fuck over poorer people so this is an attempt at balancing the scales",
"author": "752f",
"created": 1564293329,
"upvotes": 5,
"replies": {
"ev8zd30": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev8zd30/",
"text": "I understand that there are barriers but the SAT has to be STANDARDIZED and not cater towards anything even if that fucks over people. I didn't get a break because I'm ass at taking tests and my friend with minor ADHD didn't get anything. Standardized tests have to have NO special circumstances if it wants to truly represent the student.",
"author": "ShatteredPixelz",
"created": 1564298093,
"upvotes": 1,
"replies": {
"ev9k7h0": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev9k7h0/",
"text": "...Except the \u201c\u201d\u201dadversity score\u201d\u201d\u201d (which is actually a context dashboard) doesn\u2019t affect your SAT score at all: it\u2019s just context like it says\n\nDid you think colleges somehow didn\u2019t know you were middle class before this? Did you think crime data like that on the dashboard wasn\u2019t already public? Come on. Give me a break.",
"author": "bubbafightsunlim",
"created": 1564324058,
"upvotes": 7,
"replies": {}
},
"ev91hjh": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev91hjh/",
"text": "I see no reason why the score being attached to the SAT matters, that's just the means of getting it to colleges. The SAT is still standardized, it just has another score attached to it. Doesn't make a difference to me if that score were smacked onto the SAT or just given to colleges directly, the result is the same. Also, a standardized test doesn't tell the full story without including some context about the student's life. On average, a student from a poorer area will often have to work harder and be smarter than one from a richer area to get the same score on the SAT thanks to the disadvantages they face. Without some easy means of getting some information about the context of a student's life, what a student's SAT score says about their intelligence and work ethic is more vague. That makes it less useful in college admissions. At the end of the day, life presents many special circumstances and to really examine a student's potential, it is a good idea to try to control for those circumstances. I don't see why you think trying to eliminate these circumstances and get a better picture of someone's true potential is such a bad idea. It helps us work towards more of a meritocratic system in college admissions where the bias towards people with more privilige and potentially less aptitude and work ethic is lessened, which I think is a good thing.",
"author": "752f",
"created": 1564301073,
"upvotes": 1,
"replies": {
"ev9tqv0": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev9tqv0/",
"text": "I completely agree with this, but I still feel like there\u2019s something not right about it. Just because you\u2019re living in a middle class neighborhood doesn\u2019t mean you haven\u2019t faced serious adversity. From what I\u2019ve heard about it, the score wouldn\u2019t account for abuse, addictions, illnesses (physical and mental) that might be going on in your household.",
"author": "historystyles",
"created": 1564331040,
"upvotes": 1,
"replies": {
"evaud1v": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/evaud1v/",
"text": "100% true. Still, it's a heuristic. The whole idea is that it improves things a bit. I see it as a slight improvement. It certainly screws some people over, but the idea is that more people are helped by it.",
"author": "752f",
"created": 1564357476,
"upvotes": 1,
"replies": {}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
},
"evzg76w": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/evzg76w/",
"text": "Poor people getting help means it\u2019s fucking you over? So entitled.",
"author": "ApplyingToUniSoon",
"created": 1564956816,
"upvotes": -1,
"replies": {
"evzkqgv": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/evzkqgv/",
"text": "It's not entitlement to want a standardized test to be standardized and purely a number. That would be like: because both my parents got divorced and lived across town and I often had no time for studying outside of school because of other circumstances I should get a benefit? Fuck that. I deserved my mediocre score and worked my ass off in school.",
"author": "ShatteredPixelz",
"created": 1564960143,
"upvotes": 1,
"replies": {
"ew0ec9q": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ew0ec9q/",
"text": "... your sat test score doesn\u2019t change. What are you talking about?",
"author": "ApplyingToUniSoon",
"created": 1564985275,
"upvotes": 0,
"replies": {
"ew0flb8": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ew0flb8/",
"text": "The adversity score shouldn't be a thing because the SAT has and should always be soley a number that represents how well you can take tests.",
"author": "ShatteredPixelz",
"created": 1564986766,
"upvotes": 1,
"replies": {
"ew22u5r": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ew22u5r/",
"text": "Why can\u2019t they provide more context?",
"author": "ApplyingToUniSoon",
"created": 1565036984,
"upvotes": 0,
"replies": {
"ew278s4": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ew278s4/",
"text": "Why cant the test show that I'm ass at taking tests and have anxiety? Why cant the test show the people that have extra time? Oh wait because it's just a number.",
"author": "ShatteredPixelz",
"created": 1565039858,
"upvotes": 0,
"replies": {
"ew2wey1": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ew2wey1/",
"text": "If you have anxiety to the point that it\u2019s a medical condition I\u2019m pretty sure you can get extended time. The reason they don\u2019t show people have extended time is because it\u2019s illegal. They don\u2019t want colleges to discriminate against people with learning disabilities.",
"author": "ApplyingToUniSoon",
"created": 1565057578,
"upvotes": 1,
"replies": {
"ew2xyjr": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ew2xyjr/",
"text": "You kinda helped prove my point. Regardless of the situation there shouldn't be any factors that should help or not help but the number.",
"author": "ShatteredPixelz",
"created": 1565058702,
"upvotes": 0,
"replies": {
"ew30irl": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ew30irl/",
"text": "I disagree. Elite colleges want more lower income students so they don\u2019t become institutions of only the 1%",
"author": "ApplyingToUniSoon",
"created": 1565060632,
"upvotes": 0,
"replies": {
"ew34sui": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ew34sui/",
"text": "I think the problem with that is that colleges need to lower tuition and more tax money should be diverted from some things and put into public education. My grandfather lived in a trailer park growing up and was able to work his way up through hopping around the county to find the best edu for the dollar and is leading a very happy life. Just because it seems like the adversity score will help I can assure you that the amount of scholarships and college tuition arnt going to change because of it.",
"author": "ShatteredPixelz",
"created": 1565064202,
"upvotes": 0,
"replies": {
"ew35mjy": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ew35mjy/",
"text": "That\u2019s also a problem that needs to be addressed. The \u201cadversity score\u201d (which isn\u2019t even its name) helps lower income students get into better colleges that have good financial aid.",
"author": "ApplyingToUniSoon",
"created": 1565064968,
"upvotes": 1,
"replies": {
"ew38laz": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ew38laz/",
"text": "Financial aid in general needs to be fixed. In most places I didnt qualify because my divorced household situation stabbed me in the back because I had \"two houses.\"",
"author": "ShatteredPixelz",
"created": 1565067902,
"upvotes": 0,
"replies": {
"ew4y5ea": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ew4y5ea/",
"text": "How is that relevant to the discussion?",
"author": "ApplyingToUniSoon",
"created": 1565121411,
"upvotes": 0,
"replies": {
"ew4z55u": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ew4z55u/",
"text": "It's to back up my argument that financial aid isnt going to help or not help anyone because of an adversity score. The same shitty system is going to get shitter with it.",
"author": "ShatteredPixelz",
"created": 1565122366,
"upvotes": 0,
"replies": {
"ew52505": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ew52505/",
"text": "That\u2019s not entirely true. Low income students usually don\u2019t have parents that each own a home. Once again, the \u201cadversity\u201d score will help lower income students get into better colleges which tend to have better financial aid.",
"author": "ApplyingToUniSoon",
"created": 1565125061,
"upvotes": 1,
"replies": {
"ew52hds": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ew52hds/",
"text": "I guess this argument is becoming a moot point but I'll belive it helps when I see proof.",
"author": "ShatteredPixelz",
"created": 1565125335,
"upvotes": 0,
"replies": {}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
},
"ev8rz6q": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev8rz6q/",
"text": "Well you have no excuse not to succeed seeing as you don\u2019t face adversity Kappa",
"author": "ban_evasion_accnt",
"created": 1564289362,
"upvotes": -4,
"replies": {
"ev8z994": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev8z994/",
"text": "Well I couldn't afford any of the special books ot tutors because all the money went to school stuff.",
"author": "ShatteredPixelz",
"created": 1564297947,
"upvotes": 1,
"replies": {
"evucl7o": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/evucl7o/",
"text": "That's actually so true. I took 4 APs, and I am taking another 4 the coming year. [$94 x 8] I have taken 2 SATs, 1 ACT, 3 SAT subject, and I plan to take 1 more ACT. [$47.5+ $20 <QA> + $64.5<SAT essay>+ $26 \u00d7 2 <SAT subject reg fee> + $22 \u00d7 3 <sub test> + $80.5 <ACT w/ Writing> + $46 <act>]\nAll of this equates to $1128.5, and this is not including the application fees that I'm going to have to pay... which is average 70 per app. I will also have to pay to send my ACT(s) and SAT subjects, which is $12-$13 each to every school.\nIf I'm being generous, I will spend around $3000 just to apply to college. Really sucks... cuz being middle class means that you're not poor enough to receive waivers (which adds up) and not rich enough to pay it all off (which really limits my options)\nI don't mean to complain, and I'm truly thankful for what I have. I just have to say that I feel you.",
"author": "hurxhur",
"created": 1564791497,
"upvotes": 2,
"replies": {
"evuhro0": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/evuhro0/",
"text": "Thank God I live in Sacramento and not the bay area in California because I can afford shit here. But next year I'm moving to Santa Clara... so yay?!",
"author": "ShatteredPixelz",
"created": 1564795640,
"upvotes": 1,
"replies": {
"evuhxmn": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/evuhxmn/",
"text": "Can't relate \ud83d\ude22\nI live on the other side of the continent: Brooklyn, NY",
"author": "hurxhur",
"created": 1564795773,
"upvotes": 1,
"replies": {}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
},
"ev8t62j": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev8t62j/",
"text": "this is so good thank you",
"author": "shifty_p69",
"created": 1564290595,
"upvotes": 1,
"replies": {}
},
"ev7i6h5": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7i6h5/",
"text": "It depends, if you\u2019re white and straight none of that will matter.",
"author": null,
"created": 1564260047,
"upvotes": -10,
"replies": {
"ev7igbv": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7igbv/",
"text": "thank god for homosexuality \ud83d\ude29\ud83c\udf08",
"author": "CornEater64",
"created": 1564260142,
"upvotes": 20,
"replies": {}
},
"ev7swtu": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7swtu/",
"text": "Boy white straight males are so oppressed \ud83d\ude12",
"author": "PhoenixPhighter4",
"created": 1564263933,
"upvotes": 3,
"replies": {}
}
}
},
"ev7w8jv": {
"link": "/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cil47o/when_do_sat_adversity_scores_come_out/ev7w8jv/",
"text": "Nice.",
"author": "lord_patriot",
"created": 1564265250,
"upvotes": 0,
"replies": {}
}
}
}