About installation on Linux Directly

[eyazan]

we can start it with this compose in docker and access it via browser.

Now we have installed the application on Linux. Again, what do we need to do to use it in docker and access the interface
which .sh or .bat files will do our job as if it were working in docker

[bamaer]

"the application" is hop web in tomcat on a linux server?

Again, what do we need to do to use it in docker and access the interface
which .sh or .bat files will do our job as if it were working in docker

this is not clear, can you try to explain in more detail?

[eyazan]

Hello,

First, we quickly tried the Apache Hop application with docker to learn and use it. Our compose file is below. The interface is accessed from the web.

Now, we want to use the application in our live environment because we liked it. We thought that the installation with Docker was not reliable for big data.

Therefore, after installing java into a RHEL9 (no gui, just cli) server, we extracted the application files from the .zip as in the ss below.

Here, we want to use the application by connecting to the web interface as in docker. For this reason, which .sh file we need to run and make the server broadcast from a specific port.

Is such a thing possible?

We know that hop-gui is an IDE and with it we can use the application like web interface. But it can't run on our RHEL9(no gui, only cli) system.

[bamaer]

it's possible, but that is not part of the default client distribution.
You'll need to follow the steps described in the docs, but there is an open issue (#4713) that hasn't been resolved yet, so some folder/file paths will be different.

[eyazan]

What is this files in documents ss below.

[hansva]

you will need to build the source artifacts, we do not distribute these files by default

[bamaer]

the Build Hop heading at the top of the page provides a subtle hint at that.

[usbrandon]

The docker image is a very good representation of the kinds of configurations, dependencies etc required for an install. You might inspect the layers of the image or docker files that gave rise to it. You can probably lift and shift a lot to the local machine by bind/mount a folder on your host to a place within the image, go interactive with it and copy things off onto your local machine via the bind mount. Then look at how the container start up script hands off parameters etc and sets hop web for running. The docker file will let you know what OS based dependencies there are that you can find equivalents for in RHEL9.

[canucar7]

You say that, there is no documentation for using the Hop application with an management interface for a Linux machine that has no gui (only a command line).
You recommend that you can do this using the Docker container, and on a different operating system. Wow what a brilliant idea!
Whatever, just tell me that,
in docker, does working with high data for a long time cause performance problems? Is there a big difference between normal installation and installation with docker?
@bamaer @hansva @usbrandon

[hansva]

We never said there was a no documentation, we pointed you to the page here. What we are saying is that the parts needed for this installation aren't available in a handy download link. You will first need to build Hop from source code.

[canucar7]

Okey man you guys always right for sure. Forget it.
In docker, does working with high data for a long time cause performance problems? Is there a big difference between normal installation and installation with docker?

[bamaer]

whether you run through docker or an on-machine installation doesn't make a difference in how Apache Hop works or performs, but a lot can depend on how you configure your installation or your container. We can't have a detailed discussion on performance without knowing any details about your setup or any performance problems you might have.