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Some demos need setPAL since the new default is now NTSC #236

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limi opened this issue Jan 5, 2025 · 8 comments
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Some demos need setPAL since the new default is now NTSC #236

limi opened this issue Jan 5, 2025 · 8 comments

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@limi
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limi commented Jan 5, 2025

Some of the demos that are not in WHDLoad containers get confused when the standard is NTSC. We can probably fix these with setPAL in the launch scripts. Currently identified as having issues:

  • Coda
  • Electric Lifeforms
  • Boris Vallejo (slideshow)
  • Preschool I & II (music disks)
@IainMcNulty
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Running the demos in alphabetical order via [By Title], I've tested the "#" and "A" sections so far.

The following exhibited issues where the demo would not run:

4th & Inches: Fails to load.

Absolute Inebriation: Hangs on white screen.

April in Paris: Hangs on white screen.

The Red: Fails to load.

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Running the demos in alphabetical order via [By Title], I tested "B" today.

The following exhibited issues where the demo would not run:

Bingo: Fails to load.

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Running the demos in alphabetical order via [By Title], I tested "C", "D", and "E".

The following exhibited issues where the demo would not run:

Coda: Fails to load.

Columbia: Hangs on white screen.

Drama Motion Beauty: Hangs on white screen.

E255: Hangs on white screen.

Electric Lifeforms: Hangs on black screen.

Elysium: Fails to load.

Exclusive Galore: Hangs on white screen.

@limi
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limi commented Jan 25, 2025

Yeah, I think there are a lot more edge cases than we expected. I think I’ll revert everything back to PAL on boot, if we are going to do this change in the future, it will require a ton of work and testing. Unlucky that I didn’t encounter any of these on my initial testing of the change.

@IainMcNulty
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Question: Were all of the demos in Amigavision tested before the change was made?

I think there is still value in continuing to test so that we know which demos are incompatible. I'll be happy to continue to until you tell me otherwise.

@limi
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limi commented Jan 28, 2025

No, I just tested a random selection of demos and games, and unfortunately they all worked, so I assumed it wouldn’t be an issue — which it turns out it is.

I think it’s better if we just put it back to PAL by default. There’s going to be a ton of games that can run into this too, and I don’t think it’s worth the substantial effort to get them all to work.

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Apart from the fact, that most, apart from the very early USA games, it was PAL all the way, both game releases and demo releases all being done in the UK, or other Europe PAL counties. :)

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limi commented Jan 31, 2025

No. I guess I should add this somewhere more permanent, but that is not true:

https://misterfpga.org/viewtopic.php?p=94657#p94657

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