Request to add new output file for SAFE exec table

[Cole-Monnahan-NOAA]

I'd like to see a single, simple file produced that contains the information needed in the executive table in the SAFEs. Something that would be easy to open in Excel or transfer to a markdown format. I know some people use complicated R functions to read and parse the output files, and some people open them manually and copy/paste into Excel.

I think doing it inside proj has several advantages. Off the top of my head (1) less work for analysts during crunch time; (2) less chance of copy paste errors or grabbing the wrong value.

@jimianelli-NOAA Is this feasible? I know there's a lot of other stuff proj does that could interfere with something like this. @mkapur-noaa also showed an interest in this. We could help develop and/or test it.

[mkapur-noaa]

Yes, I would give this a +1. IIRC, we have a postdoc (Mathieu?) who is working to update Proj into TMB, and I imagine he could automate some of the output materials via REPORT (or post-hoc within R). Definitely agree that reading and parsing the .txt file that comes out of Proj currently can lead to transcription errors (happened to me this cycle!). MK

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On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 4:59 PM Cole Monnahan ***@***.***> wrote: I'd like to see a single, simple file produced that contains the information needed in the executive table in the SAFEs. Something that would be easy to open in Excel or transfer to a markdown format. I know some people use complicated R functions to read and parse the output files, and some people open them manually and copy/paste into Excel. I think doing it inside proj has several advantages. Off the top of my head (1) less work for analysts during crunch time; (2) less chance of copy paste errors or grabbing the wrong value. @jimianelli-NOAA <https://github.com/jimianelli-NOAA> Is this feasible? I know there's a lot of other stuff proj does that could interfere with something like this. @mkapur-noaa <https://github.com/mkapur-noaa> also showed an interest in this. We could help develop and/or test it. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#3>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AJMO6DTCD5CU65BI7T3RM3DUP75OXANCNFSM5JVE53EQ> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>.

[jimianelli]

sorry for delays in responding to this, I agree but there are a couple of issues:

1. The ABCs and OFLs that get enacted may differ from recommendations (it's not a simple copy from previous year's assessment necessarily)
2. I've made a repo now for Plan Team and author's purposes that has all the historical ABCs and OFLs that have appeared in the Federal Register, linking that in would be a good approach; also would be useful for making/updating the tables of TACs, OFLs, ABCs (but doesn't have official total catches) https://github.com/afsc-assessments/gf_specs
3. The https://github.com/afsc-assessments/sara could also be useful, or be part of the post-assessment process.

[Cole-Monnahan-NOAA]

I'm only talking about the two columns from this year's proj output, not the previous. I feel like the latter is a different question. I maintain that chasing down individual components of the table from different proj output files is ripe for copy/paste or mistakes.

[jimianelli-NOAA]

yea, I did put Tier_3_table in the spmR package, but needs testing. it should do it already.

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On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 12:16 PM Cole Monnahan ***@***.***> wrote: I'm only talking about the two columns from this year's proj output, not the previous. I feel like the latter is a different question. I maintain that chasing down individual components of the table from different proj output files is ripe for copy/paste or mistakes. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#3 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AM2OFRMJ5MNS4ZWYGJRWIM3U5KBAHANCNFSM5JVE53EQ> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. You are receiving this because you were mentioned.Message ID: ***@***.*** com>

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[BenWilliams-NOAA]

here is a "draft" version i've been working on https://github.com/ben-williams/safe_tbl

just need to have proj output placed in the "correct" format

[Cole-Monnahan-NOAA]

Why not have proj write it? Not everyone will use the R package.

[BenWilliams-NOAA]

that would be great! output could be used with many methods easily - you should update proj and i'll wrap it in a package for R users

[Cole-Monnahan-NOAA]

Is there going to be an R package for proj itself? Kinda makes sense to put some of this functionality along with the ADMB code.

[jimianelli]

Yes! Starting touches already happening

On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 8:04 AM Cole Monnahan ***@***.***> wrote: Is there going to be an R package for proj itself? Kinda makes sense to put some of this functionality along with the ADMB code. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#3 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAUW7YU7Y2K7B2EWLYT5M2TU6DPILANCNFSM5JVE53EQ> . You are receiving this because you modified the open/close state.Message ID: ***@***.*** .com>

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[BenWilliams-NOAA]

I have one started up locally. brought up a number of framework questions for me.
would also be easy to roll the AK_Scenarios_For_SS script that Steve has worked up into a package.

Also my info was based on the AK-projection-simulation repo, I'm guessing this repo usurps that?

[jimianelli-NOAA]

Thanks Ben, Same repo, just renamed, wonder if that breaks things?!? Great idear.

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On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 8:40 AM Ben Williams ***@***.***> wrote: I have one started up locally. brought up a number of framework questions for me. would also be easy to roll the AK_Scenarios_For_SS script that Steve has worked up into a package. Also my info was based on the AK-projection-simulation repo, I'm guessing this repo usurps that? — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#3 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AM2OFRLPW6R25LPEUQ7TC4TU6DTOBANCNFSM5JVE53EQ> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. You are receiving this because you were mentioned.Message ID: ***@***.*** com>

-- James Ianelli NMFS/NOAA Building 4 7600 Sand Pt Way NE Seattle WA 98115 206 526 6510 Visit the ADMB project http://admb-project.org/ Also see Alaska groundfish stock assessments <https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/alaska/population-assessments/north-pacific-groundfish-stock-assessment-and-fishery-evaluation>

[jimianelli]

guess prematurely closed