Question+Suggestion: There's a lot of bloat that's still enabled, could you implementing adding brave browser launch flags? #3
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@BubbleSquish could you post an all-in-one flag combination (flags to disable max amount of shit as possible) for debullshitiniation? |
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FYI; Chromium supports the ability to save launch flags to a config file please see https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Chromium#Configuration |
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My main concern here is getting brave to launch with the flags applied. On linux I should just be able to modify the .desktop file to add launch flags, but for windows I can't really do that. I could edit the desktop shortcut but that wouldn't apply the flags when launching Brave any other way.
As far as I can tell this is exclusive to Arch Linux and doesn't exist on any other platforms so I'm a bit hesitant to use the config file. |
Nope its not exclusive to arch linux. I'm pretty sure this works with all linux distros. idk about mac and windows tho (somebody pls test) |
You're able to do this with most Linux distros, but the method for doing it with Windows is a little more complicated, but still pretty much basically the same. Just remember... Flags that apply to Linux don't always apply to Windows, and vise versa - simply because the feature isn't there yet for whichever operating system. Simply put, for Windows, you can implement launch flags via registry. So basically, you can add the launch flags to your .reg file in your code. Which is mildly convenient since you're already doing something like that but for policies. For almost all Linux distros. You can do the For nightly, I believe there's two fucking launchers called brave-nightly and brave-nightly-launcher... Which I haven't bothered to understand. NOTE: There's policies that seem to be unable to be toggled off in: Notice Good Lord.... Anyway, I haven't figured out a way to toggle that shit off like the Ads related stuff and the other experimental surveillance features. This makes me believe that no matter what you do with your policies, they are still executing and communicating with their Rewards/VPN/AI/Ads/News bullshit as these |
Yeah sure... Just give me a little because I have flags I am just fucking around with and I have to compile all the ones that relate to all debullshitting into a list. |
alright alright bet |
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@BubbleSquish soo its been a while |
I've been busy with some insurance and doctor appointments (all is fine, just switching things up due to outdated info). What OS are you running? Step 1: Revert Existing PoliciesBefore applying new customizations, back up and remove your current Reason: Policies can override your own custom flags. If a global policy is enabled, it could prevent your changes from taking effect. That’s why you should temporarily back them up and remove them, then reapply as needed. You'll still want them afterwards. Depending on your OS, revert the changes made by: Step 2: Disable FlagsGo to
Set them all to Disabled. After reading each description, it looks like “Disabled” is the correct configuration. Experimental PoliciesI’m experimenting with Also, @MulesGaming, it seems they removed Which implies the background processes are still running, even if the front-end doesn’t show it. Honestly, they keep changing things so often that it breaks everything. We may need to compile our own version of Brave. We should call our fork something like…
So when you dare to make your own brave fork of Brave, Archangel Michael will Scare Brendan Eich away. Nahh... Brendan Eich is alright, it's just... Don't fork his browser or he'll sue you for some reason. Sources: Alternative sources: Additional sources: Source: Closed-source source sources: Open-source source sources hosted on a closed-source website BUT uses open-source CMS (WordPress) HOWEVER is using closed-source extensions/plugins/themes/fonts/code such as Enfold. I am looking into it now for more information. Check for embedded DRM content in the Source again:
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Just remember, I am kind of new to github and coding in general, so don't take everything I say as factual. 😅 |
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I've disabled all the flags you've mentioned but nothing except |
....There should be some processes or subprocess that's active that's running the crypto and lovely ads. But there's the issue with giving what we personally believe is a common annoyance, that of which is bullshit. Removing it, obviously. Do not wastefully discourage yourself. I'm full of debullshit and will look into it. |
Previously mentioned "local state method" Random thing I found: |
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Modifying the local state & preferences files seems like it should work, and would allow more de-bloating options as well because were able to modify settings directly, but even if we do apply flags this way though there is still the issue of some of the flags not actually doing anything. We could just modify the settings however that still leaves remnants of the "features" that we're trying to disable. The main reason I went with group policies when first designing this is that is nearly whipped also visible parts of the bloat out of the browser, which just changing settings doesn't do. I might look at changing the flags that do work, and maybe some settings in the future, but unless you can figure out how to make flags disable everything, I don't think this can fully replace group policies. For future reference the paths to the Brave user folder is
This seems cool, but if we were to fork brave, we would also be left with the responsibility of maintaining it, which is a lot for a browser which revives minor updates multiple times a week |
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I never wanted to replace the policy stuff, it's just... ...At which part now are we at where flags aren't doing much and neither is policies due to the "HELLO! WOULD YOU LIKE TO OPT INTO STATISTICS", "BRAVE CRASHED SEND US YOUR SHIT", and "oops I somehow accidently clicked "aight bet" because you're yelling at me under right under my bookmark bar through rude banner notifications". Then, there's also this whole NTP issue that's refusing to comply with our demands to completely flush. |
Well... Heh! Let's do it. We do not like bullshit, imagine... Brave but without crypto and ads.... It's almost like the devs knew this challenge would come, will we be sued by johovascript? I would love a web browser that does exactly what brave does.... Without all the things that the forum people are claiming can be easily be disabled despite what we seem to be confusingly running into on github of all places. I mean... you can Google or "Bravely search it" and everyone who's complaining about it is being ass blasted by keyboard warriors for claiming the issue doesn't exist because you can press the happy-toggle-off button and issue gone. (it's not, are these people |
I agree. If there is a proper way to modify Brave to fully disable this I'll happily add it to the repo. If we can genuinely get flags to work they seem like they could fix stuff like this.
I'd support a de-bloated Brave fork but I don't really want the responsibility or time commitment of maintaining a fork of a browser. Even if you just look at something like Cromite there are multiple commits a day just to keep it up to date. |
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Meeh tbh people should just use cromite instead Cromite its the only foss chromium non-bloated browser that still has a built-in adblocker |
Do it even matter though? Right now I am just using brave because of its superior force-dark implementations (which is mostly just up-to-date chrome-dev features with its own twist) |
Yeah, I'm using Cromite as my browser on my phone and it's good. I haven't really used it on desktop though. It's built in adblocker isn't as good as Brave's (but Brave's is the only built-in adblocker I've seen that gets anywhere close to uBlock origin), but that's not really a big deal because uBlock Origin exists. |
There's a lot of stuff that's still toggled on. You can still for some reason enable the crap accidentally regardless of the policy management. For instance, when it randomly asks you if you'd like to "Enable some bullshit feature?" or "Send us some bullshit data?" or "Our bullshit crashed, automatically opt into ads for top 5 mini-fridges?" via notification directly under the bookmark bar.
I'd like to suggest adding in launch flags that'd disable all the bullshit tagged with
NewsWalletCryptoCoinBadgeRewardsAdsUsageand intelligently implement flags that'd disable things related to bro wtf warnings/prompts.Via flags, I have noticed I can actually even disable even seeing the options to enable/disable them... Which is great for navigating on the chrome page.
The policies... Even if it's not related to your script, but rather if Brave wants to include a policy to manage it or not, don't seem to be doing much, if anything.
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