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Ammonium? #18

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rfellers opened this issue Apr 21, 2020 · 3 comments
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Ammonium? #18

rfellers opened this issue Apr 21, 2020 · 3 comments

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@rfellers
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Hey all,

I'm looking for a mapping for Unimod:989 Ammonium. Does such a thing exist in PSI-MOD? My searching led nowhere.

Thanks,
Ryan

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pmt706 commented Apr 21, 2020

It's not in there now... but related... there is a monosodium adduct MOD:00423 and a protonated residue MOD:01699. We should add it, but I think it should be in the mold of MOD:00423 where you have a H -1 N 1 H 4 (or a net N 1 H3)... then it's neutral, so the user would add in any ionization-related charges to it. The "PSI-MOD-way" is to have the N-term and C-term separate as well as any charging...

Thoughts?

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+1 on adding ammonium modeled after MOD:00423.

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pabinz commented Apr 23, 2020

Sodium Adduct is adding Na+, non covalently, that's all. Nothing to do with a removal of H+compensated with an addition of Na+. But in PSI-MOD a diff of H-1 Na 1 is defined as one assumes, when a peptide is analysed as (singly or multiply) protonated, one adds a H 1 to the neutral mass.
Similarly, Ammonium adduct is a non covalent addition of NH4+ (a N 1 H 4). Therefore the diff of N 1 H 3 can be ok. It is an artefactual mod.

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