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Random movements after using BabyStep during the first layers (Stock QQSP) #18

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beebenutz opened this issue Mar 12, 2023 · 6 comments
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@beebenutz
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After successfully completing the bed leveling procedure, I begin a new print.
As the print begins, I attempt to adjust the Nozzle to probe offset to correct the first layer height.
If The offset is adjusted, the printer begins crashing into the bed and lifting off on random trajectories.

This can be replicated by flashing the firmware (2.1.2) (QQSP_STOCK-Robin_mini)
Conduct a bed leveling procedure. (I used UBL)
Then begin a print and attempt to adjust the nozzle to probe offset.

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I can help you but I need some details:

  • Did you change the stepper motor drivers?
  • After flashing the firmware, did you force the erasing of the EEPROM by the menu "Special Delta" (first item)?
  • To adjust the nozzle height during the first printing layers, you have to use the "BabyStep" function (3 ways to do it => note on the Wiki)

@Foxies-CSTL Foxies-CSTL changed the title Stock QQSP Goes Crazy on Foxies! Random movements after using BabyStep during the first layers (Stock QQSP) Apr 6, 2023
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mlewis-everley commented Jan 4, 2024

I have also been getting this issue on my Q5's. It seems like one of the steppers (possibly Z) locks in place (or behaves erratically) when using "tune" > "z offset" options in the LCD menu.

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  1. I am using the stock stepper drivers
  2. I erase EEPROM and follow all the steps under the special delta menu.
  3. I cannot find anything related to "Babystepping" in the wiki. I usually just use "Tune" > "Probe Z Offset" in the LCD menu while printing.

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OK, so I have updated to the latest stable version. Now, instead of random movements, the printers just turn off their steppers (so the effector stops moving and I can freely move it by hand) :-/.

@Foxies-CSTL
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Hi,

3. I cannot find anything related to "Babystepping" in the wiki. I usually just use "Tune" > "Probe Z Offset" in the LCD menu while printing.

You'll find it here: https://github.com/Foxies-CSTL/Marlin_2.1.x/wiki/2.SETTINGS-THE-PRINTER#222-tips-babystepping

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OK, so I have updated to the latest stable version. Now, instead of random movements, the printers just turn off their steppers (so the effector stops moving and I can freely move it by hand) :-/.

You may have a Vref setting problem on the stepper drivers. If they are removable, you have a micro-screw to adjust, otherwise it's another problem.

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Thanks for the reply. I am using removable drivers with the microscrews. I cannot remember off the top of my head what voltage it is set to, what do you recommend @Foxies-CSTL ?

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Foxies-CSTL commented Jan 16, 2024

Thanks for the reply. I am using removable drivers with the microscrews. I cannot remember off the top of my head what voltage it is set to, what do you recommend @Foxies-CSTL ?

For A4988s, Vref should be between 0.65 and 0.79v.
For TMC220xs, Vref must be between 0.8 and 1v.

Mine are 960mV for the XYZE axes, but I set them in the UART by current (Irms) and currently I have 900mA on XYZ and 850mA on Ext.

NB: with the original stepper motors (XYZ), otherwise you have to adapt them to the characteristics of the new stepper motors using the information in the manufacturer's datasheet.

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