ITV Hub is now ITVX #428
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I agree. Neither of the last two releases work for ITV anymore. It caches 22,817 programs but fails to start the ITV cache process. As a result the program then hangs indefinitely. If you turn of ITV in the preferences, the program works normally for iPlayer programs. This just started today, since it was working normally 12 hours ago. |
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I am seeing this as well. The hang is disconcerting since quitting GiA triggers a warning that series link info may be lost, which would create awkwardness should it happen. |
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Same problem for me. BBC shows still okay if I turn off ITV like suggested. Hopefully Scott will have a fix. |
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The short fix is to turn off ITV in the preferences, but I will release an update that disables ITV caching until I can figure out if ITV will ever work again. |
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Just one question Scott. Turning off ITV allows us to get BBC shows but we still cannot use the current web page option for ITV shows. Is there another workaround to get them? |
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Command-line yt-dlp won't download from the new ITV, and even Downie can't get a stream to save either, so there's no way to download ITV content at all at this point. More concerning to me is that Downie can identify that there is a video stream but then fails claiming the video is DRM-protected. If true, that's the end of ITV support. STV is still a possibility, though. |
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I tried STV but it insists I sign in. So I created an account even giving an accurate but false postcode in the area served by STV to be able to sign up. It says success! but when I try to stream it says I am outside the area. I am using a UK VPN - I think it's still detecting I am not in the UK - I am in the middle of the Pacific Ocean - but it may be, like 4OD does, also checking the time zone on the computer to see if it matches the postcode. I'll have to try with my other mac set to UK time zone as soon as I finish repairing it. |
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I got STV to work in my browser with a VPN. Not a time issue - you must have set up a postcode in Scotland. I picked Edinburgh. |
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The very latest version of Downie seems to have no problem with downloading from the itvx site. However, you'll get an 'Error: Cannot find download ID' message if it's a show that requires a premium account. I don't know what happens if you have such an account and use Downie. I suspect DRM would be in use for shows that require such a premium account. The problem in GiPA seems more to do with caching than actually downloading... |
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Submitted a ticket for ITV yesterday to Charlie, the creator of Downie. This morning European time he responded: " Hi, thanks for the report. This issue will be fixed in the next update. Cheers, Charlie Monroe [[email protected]]" This afternoon CET, release 4.6.1 shipped fixing ITV. Release notes: @raythw Submit a new ticket for your error message -- Charlie willl tell you if its DRM, or can be fixed. |
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I thought it was the launch of ITVX messing up things. Sao that's the end of automater I guess. |
No, GiA will continue on. It may take some time but scanning ITVX for show listings should still be possible. And if Downie can download ITV content I'm pretty confident yt-dlp or youtube-dl can do it too. |
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You may want to follow along with this yt-dlp issue tracking ITVX support. It's not encouraging, honestly. yt-dlp/yt-dlp#5570 |
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Living in Edinburgh and already having an STV Player account, I can access programmes on there just fine. But GiA doesn't recognise them when I click the "Use Current Webpage" button, saying:
Did this ever work, or would it need a change to GiA? (I'm particularly interested in this because I've just discovered that STV Player currently has The Field of Blood available, something I've been trying to get hold of for ages!) |
No, although it has been requested in the past. See #420 |
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OK, thanks. I shall await developments. |
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Any update on a possible fix for the ITV problem? Thanks. Peter |
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It will be some time before there is an update imo. With so much added content I wonder if any new update will cause GIA to crash ! |
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Given that ITV is not working at all it might be worth the risk, but agree we don’t want to risk BBC shows. Scott’s call I guess. |
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I’ve just subscribed to Downie 4 and have downloaded all the itv shows I would have obtained through iplayer.Automator. Itvx also has many shows from 4OD |
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Just trying Downie which I've never heard of, very cool ! itvx shouldn't have any shows from all4 though? The test download was news at ten which wasn't HD res btw |
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M1ctk - it does have 4OD - it’s advertised as doing it. Do a search for ‘Grand Designs’ and you’ll find all the shows from series 1 through to 19. 40D itself is up to series 22/23. |
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I had a few issues with Downie. Puts the shows as Home Video (easy fix once in apple tv), but I had a few that it downloaded the same episode twice or put the wrong episode number so they were out of order. I also find sometimes I have to put them in Downie twice before they will download. But I manage to work through it, although it gets very confusing sometimes. But at least it's something. Wish I was in the UK, I would just subscribe to the premium service on ITVX. Damn borders..... |
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A few updates: I have figured out how to scan ITVx.com for shows, and can successfully rebuild the cache. That's helpful but doesn't get us much further until yt-dlp can actually download content again. I also looked into using STV for ITV content and I'm happy to report that I have the 'Get Current Webpage' workflow working. I can get the show metadata into a format that looks good in Apple TV, and downloading it with yt-dlp works perfectly. I will likely need to restore the preferences for ITV quality, though, as they offer a full set of resolutions for most shows (1080p, 720p, down to 384x216) and I doubt you want to download 2gb for every show. I haven't figured out how to get a full library of STV shows. I'm guessing I'd have to do it category by category like I'm doing for ITV, which will be slow. I have also been doing a lot of under-the-hood work. I moved a fair amount of code to Swift, added a new logging engine, and removed a lot of duplicated code on the BBC side related to getting metadata and searching. It all feels stable in my usage, so I will likely release that before rolling out any of the ITV/STV changes. I'm trying to be very careful to not break things like your stored auto-record settings and saved queues. Regarding ITVx and premium content: GiA was never intended to be a tool for downloading subscription-only or DRM-protected material. Managing usernames and passwords is an additional level of complexity that I don't want to deal with, and opens up a whole slew of legal issues that I'm not prepared to handle. That may be a disappointment to some of you but it's just the reality of being a part-time open source project. |
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Thanks for all your hard work Scott. |
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You have done a excellent job so far and look forward to the finished product :) |
You mean All4 of course. Yes but you can't download as it's premium content I noticed |
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@m1ctk The whole All4 website is DRM-encrypted, so Downie can't download from it. Downie has the support for user names and passwords Scott references, but I have found it's only useful for free websites that require a signon. All fee websites I have tried downloading from, Downie says they are DRM-protected, so it can't download. |
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Downie doesn't download in HD with me, should it ? I thought all shows were now HD but I am still getting 896 x 504 |
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Sorry, not much to update here. There's discussion about higher resolution downloads and DRM and needing an account. @Vangelis66 has been very helpful here (as usual!) If you want to follow along with youtube-dl see ytdl-org/youtube-dl#31363 or yt-dlp at yt-dlp/yt-dlp#5570 |
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After shipping 3 releases fine tuning the ITVX support, Downie yesterday shipped a release with full support for STV. Release notes here https://software.charliemonroe.net/trial/downie/v4/rnotes.html |
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You can now download most(?) ITV content through STV at all resolutions up to full HD. There is some DRM-protected shows that yt-dlp won't touch, and I added guards so the app won't try to download them. Does anyone know if STV is a subset or superset of ITV? |
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I tried an episode of Emmerdale from STV and it worked until the end and then wouldn't put it in Apple TV and started doing errors. |
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I've tried the STV download feature with a couple of programmes. In each case I had the following results:
I'd say that's an excellent start, all things considered, and I very much appreciate the work that's been done so far to try to address the issues caused by ITV's decision to implement DRM on their streaming service (especially so with a new series of Endeavour due this year.) |
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Yes I saw that and was not trying to be critical - just offering feedback. I truly do also appreciate all the work that is being done to fix this. Cheers. Peter |
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Aye, just reporting what happened on my machine in case it's useful. Another good thing: ITV shows are now downloadable in 720p - previously they only ever downloaded in sub-SD, which I assume was a limitation of the ITV Hub. I don't use iTunes for video so didn't see anything relating to that. One other thing: the shows weren't recorded in the Download History - presumably because they were deemed to have failed downloading. Then again, ISTR seeing something similar with ITV shows in the last few months before ITV Hub became ITVX. Didn't think anything of it at the time, though. |
Those wikipedia links make it clear that this is a tricky question – neither is the right answer I believe. STV overlaps with ITV, but doesn't carry all ITV programming and STV carries some programs that ITV does not. Also, ITVX has numerous, formerly Britbox, programs that are definitely not part of STV's content. |
For STV fetches, the Probably GiA has its own routine of embedding a |
This was due to a bug in how I was passing arguments to AtomicParsley. It should be fixed in v1.25.0. Anything that got added to TV.app is in your Home Movies section.
I apologize, but I am bad about testing subtitle support as I don't use it myself, so I often forget it's there. But thanks to @Vangelis66 and #443 it's a pretty simple fix. |
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Good morning. I just updated the version and it still does the same thing. Error message and does not go into Apple Tv (not in Home Videos either). Not sure why? I was able to drag the completed file to Apple TV and then update the data to get it to shows in TV Shows. It did not show in Home Videos for some reason but was in recently added after I dragged and dropped it into Apple TV. Peter
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Did you have subtitles turned on? I had no issues without subtitles, but with subtitles enabled it failed because the wrong subtitle format was requested (see above reports). I will push out an update with that fixed soon. |
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I think I did but am at work right now. Thanks. Peter |
Firstly: I see no need to apologise for getting something working that was broken through no fault of yours. Secondly - and perhaps pushing my luck somewhat - is there any chance that that fix could be made on a version of GIA which still supports pre-10.15 versions of macOS? I'm still stuck on Mojave until The Powers That Be can provide me with viable alternatives to some critical 32-bit apps (I know, I know...largely out of my control, unfortunately). But it would be handy to have the subtitles working properly... |
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I turned off subtitles as suggested and STV shows worked flawlessly. Thanks Scott. |
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Just downloaded and installed 1.25.1 - all working perfectly . Many thanks for the effort getting this sorted. |
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youtube-dl now has the changes needed to get ITVX downloads working again. I tested it and you can download 896x504 programs again. I also have a more robust solution for caching the last 7 days of non-premium ITVX shows. This will match get_iplayer's default of 7 days of program info. As soon as they release an 'official' update of youtube-dl I will work on including it in a future build. |
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I will keep support for STV downloads there, as it's the only way to get HD programs. I can write a cacher for the last 7 days but I can't guarantee it will pick up everything. |
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Many thanks for all your hard work Scott, it's much appreciated. Glad that you are keeping on support for STV, as there are programmes there not available on ITV. |
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Thanks Scott. really appreciate your ongoing efforts to fix this. Just curious, do you think eventually you will be able to get HD shows working on ITVX or will it only be the 894x504? Cheers. Peter |
That will ultimately be up to youtube-dl or yt-dlp. The current thinking I've read is that the only way to get HD content from ITVX is to have a specific client certificate that identifies you as the ITV player on mobile. That would require some significant hacking to extract it, and even then that's only a theory. |
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I'm unsure whether or not this is the same problem as previously reported, but when trying to download any programme from ITVX using the "Use Current Webpage" option I receive the message: "Programme Page Not Found -Please ensure the frontmost browser tab is open to an iPlayer episode page or ITV Hub episode page." |
It's indirectly related -- the latest version of GiA disabled Use Current Webpage on itv.com since you can't download anything from it anyway. It will return in a future update when I restore ITV support. |
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Any update on a fix for ITVX? Thanks. Peter |
Sorry, no. I'm waiting on a fix for yt-dlp/yt-dlp#5570 to be merged in, but this is proving to be difficult at best. |
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Okay thanks. |
The ITV Hub is no more - and it is now ITVX with its subscription service overlaid on the old hub.
As a result, searching for ITV programs fails for me as of today - and "Use Current Page" from ITVX does not work. GiA finds 12000 programs but stalls at that point.
Turning off ITV programs in Preferences got me functionality back for iPlayer programs, but it looks like the ITV side of the house will need some repairs.
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